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whether it is an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora, or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. this evening, michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do. which is hug our children a little tighter. and we'll tell them that we love them. and we'll remind our children how deeply we love one another. but there are families in connecticut who cannot do that tonight. and they need all of us right now. and in the days to come, the community needs us to be at our best as americans. and i will do everything in my power as president to help, because while nothing can feel the space of a lost child or loved one, all of us can extend a hand to those in need. to remind them that we are there for them. that we are praying for them. that the love they felt for those they los
whether it is an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora, or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. this evening, michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do. which is hug our children a little...
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just this week that mall in clackamas, oregon. two dead plus the shooter. that was tuesday of this week. incidents where someone with firearms kills multiple people. these incidents happen a lot in the united states. and we know that. but in ezra's piece today, we see if you put these shootings in an international context, it is even more striking. if you look internationally at the worst mass shooting incidents of the last 50 years, the worst mass shootings in a civilian context that have happened anywhere in the world over the course of the last half century, 15 of the 24 worst mass shootings internationally have happened in our country. worldwide over 50 years, a majority of the world's mass shootings happen in one country, and that is us. they happen here. i might have suspected that, but i did not know that. also interesting to note that there is not a direct correlation between the number of firearms in a country and the number of mass shootings they have. yes, it's true we happen to have a lot of guns and a lot of mass shooting. but there are places
just this week that mall in clackamas, oregon. two dead plus the shooter. that was tuesday of this week. incidents where someone with firearms kills multiple people. these incidents happen a lot in the united states. and we know that. but in ezra's piece today, we see if you put these shootings in an international context, it is even more striking. if you look internationally at the worst mass shooting incidents of the last 50 years, the worst mass shootings in a civilian context that have...
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two dozen kids were shot and wounded in a high school cafeteria in springfield, oregon in 1998. 1998. the police chief there now, who was a first responder that horrible day at that oregon high school 14 years ago said today about newtown, "i know that there is going to be a lot of emotion in that community." he said," in addition to the victims and the families in newtown, that his heart goes out to the police and the emergency services personnel that responded to deal with this, because this is going to take a toll on a lot of people." beth nimmo whose daughter was killed in the columbine high school mass shooting, she said today, "as far as the parents go, they're not going to know what hit them for a long, long time. my heart is racing. i just feel like these parents, they're going to hurt so bad for so long. and there is not much you can do to console something like this." frank deangelis still is the principal there today. he said when he heard what happened in connecticut today, quote, it just made me sick to my stomach. it just takes me back to what we felt on april 20th, 1999
two dozen kids were shot and wounded in a high school cafeteria in springfield, oregon in 1998. 1998. the police chief there now, who was a first responder that horrible day at that oregon high school 14 years ago said today about newtown, "i know that there is going to be a lot of emotion in that community." he said," in addition to the victims and the families in newtown, that his heart goes out to the police and the emergency services personnel that responded to deal with...
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and i believe these tragedies have taken place in nevada, in oregon, and wisconsin are waking america up. and we're looking at this issue now, and we want action. >> okay, thank you so much, chief johnson. larry johnson, thank you, sir, for joining us as well, and thank you cliff van zandt. and chris jansing, my colleague at msnbc. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz picks up msnbc's continuing coverage of the sandy hook elementary school shooting right now. >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. there are tragedies in life that shake our souls and break our hearts. today the nation experienced one of those tragedies. every american will struggle to come to grips with what happened today in a small community in connecticut. sandy hook elementary school in the small community of about 27,000 residents was the site of a shooting rampage. at this hour we know 26 people at the school were shot and killed by a lone gunman. 20 of those deceased were children. surviving students and their parents said teachers o
and i believe these tragedies have taken place in nevada, in oregon, and wisconsin are waking america up. and we're looking at this issue now, and we want action. >> okay, thank you so much, chief johnson. larry johnson, thank you, sir, for joining us as well, and thank you cliff van zandt. and chris jansing, my colleague at msnbc. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz picks up msnbc's continuing coverage of the sandy hook...
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the shooting that took place earlier this week in portland, oregon, shooter dressed in all block with a semiautomatic weapon. today we're told the shooter, one more time, dressed in black, maybe with a load bearing vest that would allow him to carry more magazines. part of what we have to get into is do these guys see themselves as some type of commando or something? what commando goes after kids? goes after little kids? and as -- >> does that lend some kind of moral authority to the horrific actions, the wearing of a uniform of some kind? >> it may go along with some type of fantasy we have. you said wrap your arms around it. i have been trying to do that all day. how can anyone in their right mind or wrong mind justify the killing of children -- >> let's go to profile questions. the person shows up with two semiautomatic pistols have that 15 rounds each. so they're ready to shoot a lot of people. so it's hard to believe one thing led to another. the initial intent was to do a lot of horror. >> and when we're told over 100 rounds have been fired, do the math. that means about four or
the shooting that took place earlier this week in portland, oregon, shooter dressed in all block with a semiautomatic weapon. today we're told the shooter, one more time, dressed in black, maybe with a load bearing vest that would allow him to carry more magazines. part of what we have to get into is do these guys see themselves as some type of commando or something? what commando goes after kids? goes after little kids? and as -- >> does that lend some kind of moral authority to the...
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if you and i think of this week that took place in a portland, oregon mall, if we think of it as a shooting that took place in aurora, each time, individuals are wearing black, multiple magazines. the sihooter in 2007 carried tw handguns. these individuals, number one, in some cases, are dressing like they're some type of a combat character or something. but they're going to combat against totally defenseless people. al, you know, this takes us back to september, 2004 in russia when, as you remember, terrorists went in and took over a school. 385 children skilled, 785 wounded. but what's important, as you just said, too, that this individual killed his mother at her home and then went to the school and then allegedly killed children that were in the classroom that she taught. al, this is someone who not only wiped out his mother which is a tremendous taboo for any society. but then he went to the school, i believe, al, he went to the school looking for those children because that's who his mother loved. those children were part of him. they were part of her. she was part of them. and by --
if you and i think of this week that took place in a portland, oregon mall, if we think of it as a shooting that took place in aurora, each time, individuals are wearing black, multiple magazines. the sihooter in 2007 carried tw handguns. these individuals, number one, in some cases, are dressing like they're some type of a combat character or something. but they're going to combat against totally defenseless people. al, you know, this takes us back to september, 2004 in russia when, as you...
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whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> reporter: harry smith is with us now, when i ran into you a little while ago, the first thing we said to each other, was man, we've seen this before. we tried out that list and we go through jonesboro, and i noticed even tonight, in these trauma centers we can stand there and watch gunshot victims come in. >> you have spent all that time in chicago, you know what it was like this past summer. there was a weekend when 30 people were shot. ten people killed. not just one weekend, but several weekends. every day, every night in this country people are falling down dead because they have been shot. and what is amazing to me as we have covered these stories over all of these years is how little
whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> reporter: harry smith is with us now, when i ran into you a little while ago, the first thing we said to each other,...
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whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> reporter: harry smith is with us now, when i ran into you a little while ago, the first thing we said to each other, was man, we've seen this before. we trot out that list and we go through jonesboro, and i noticed even tonight, in these trauma centers we can stand there and watch gunshot victims come in. >> you have spent all that time in chicago, you know what it was like this past summer. there was a weekend when 30 people were shot. ten people killed. not just one weekend, but several weekends. every day, every night in this country people are falling down dead because they have been shot. and what is amazing to me as we have covered these stories over all of these years is how little
whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> reporter: harry smith is with us now, when i ran into you a little while ago, the first thing we said to each other,...
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whether it is an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. >> live look there in newtown, connecticut, where folks are gathered for a news conference that was supposed to start about two hours ago. at the news conference we are expecting to hear the names of the victims. the officials there tell us that they are going to officially release the names of all of the victims from yesterday's mass shooting at sandy hook elementary school. when that happens we will bring it to you live. expecting to hear from the governor of connecticut at some point over the next few hours as well. governor malloy. going to be addressing folks in connecticut. that was president obama just a few moments ago talking about the tragedy. that was a weekly radio address. he used his weekly radio address. mr. obama said the nation grieves for those killed in newtown and their families. he also said that it is time to take meaningful acti
whether it is an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. >> live look there in newtown, connecticut, where folks are gathered for a news conference that was supposed to start about two hours ago. at the news conference we are expecting to hear the names of the victims. the officials there tell us that they are...
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been through this too many times, whether it is an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street coroner chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. >> the newtown police continued to update throughout the day and night. >> we will leave no stone unturned as we are looking at every facet off this investigation, whether it is the shooter or the victim, and we will look at everything, and we certainly will go in and out of state, and work with local law en s forment and federal agents and whatever we need to do to answer the questions as to what transpired here. >> this is a continuing and developing story, and for the very latest, let's go now to msnbc's chris jansing in n newtown, connecticut. hi, chris. >> well, we were expecting this news conference to happen two hours ago, but the delay is not surprisi surprising. i spoke at 7:00 to lieutenant vance who is the lead spokesman for the lead police here, and they are the lead investigators on the scene, and you can imagin
been through this too many times, whether it is an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street coroner chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. >> the newtown police continued to update throughout the day and night. >> we will leave no stone unturned as we are looking at every facet off this investigation, whether it is the shooter or the victim, and we...
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we talked about this happening in shopping mallses in oregon and movie theaters in colorado, college campuses in virginia. of course finally a first grade class in connecticut. in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i think i worry about what andrea mitchell is saying about the concern about whether or not the president in congress has the guts to do something. i would say that it would be one of the most disappointing things i've ever witnessed in my entire lifetime. if we can't make fundamental changes in our gun laws but, not only that, in how we handle mental illness in this country, school security in this country and, also, the pervasive and deadly culture of these violent video games which i don't care, i'll say it, feed into
we talked about this happening in shopping mallses in oregon and movie theaters in colorado, college campuses in virginia. of course finally a first grade class in connecticut. in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. we're going to have to come together and take more action to prevent tragedies like this. >> meaningful action. today's tragedy in connecticut brings the issue of guns to the forefront of america's minds tonight. with me are two people with personal experience with gun violence, u.s. congresswoman carolyn who lost her husband in a 1993 mass shooting on a commuter train. by the way, we called the nra, the national rifle association hoping to get someone from that organization on tonight. they said they're not commenting until more information is thoroughly known in this case. congresswoman, thank you so much for coming on. i know this brings it all back, but i thought it was great. i said we've got to get carolyn mccarthy because her reason to be in public life, to take on the voters to deal with the public life was this issue of the horror that hit y
whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. we're going to have to come together and take more action to prevent tragedies like this. >> meaningful action. today's tragedy in connecticut brings the issue of guns to the forefront of america's minds tonight. with me are two people with personal...
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we have seen it in portland, oregon. of course we saw it yesterday. >> the picture continues to emerge about zlan. according to "the new york daily news," people that knew him describe him as, quote, deeply disturbed, subject to outbursts and had a tortured mind. these were all direct quotes from the article but also brilliant. what are your thoughts on that as a former fbi profiler? >> you know somewhat, again, as chris mentioned a few minutes ago, we have -- look at the comparison between brilliant person but a challenged individual. that's the same way we described the shooter in aurora, colorado. again, we cease these -- you know, and -- it's not just the brilliant. we have seen the far less than brilliant people become mass murderers. as far as school shoot rings concerned, this is a shooting at a school and not a scoot shooting. nonetheless we have more victim s except for vurng tech than we have ever seen before. he was able to construct this situation where he had some type of challenge with his mother, we are to
we have seen it in portland, oregon. of course we saw it yesterday. >> the picture continues to emerge about zlan. according to "the new york daily news," people that knew him describe him as, quote, deeply disturbed, subject to outbursts and had a tortured mind. these were all direct quotes from the article but also brilliant. what are your thoughts on that as a former fbi profiler? >> you know somewhat, again, as chris mentioned a few minutes ago, we have -- look at the...
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an elementary school in newtown a shopping mall in oregon, a house of worship in wisconsin, a movie theater in colorado, countless street corners in places like chicago and philadelphia. any of these neighborhoods could be our own. so we have to come together and we will have to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this from happening. regardless of politics. >> i'm joined now by dan gross, president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. i appreciate you coming on. it's unfortunate whenever we speak it's under circumstances like this. is there anything that indicates to you that this time anything will be different? that the outcome of this will change things? >> absolutely. i have never been more optimistic. you just heard the president of the united states kaucalling fo meaningful action. the president of the united states is a meaningful man. he stood up for the prl princip he believes in. this is a conversation the american public wants to have. the american public knows as a nation we are better than a country where we can't send kids to school without fearing
an elementary school in newtown a shopping mall in oregon, a house of worship in wisconsin, a movie theater in colorado, countless street corners in places like chicago and philadelphia. any of these neighborhoods could be our own. so we have to come together and we will have to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this from happening. regardless of politics. >> i'm joined now by dan gross, president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. i appreciate you coming...
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and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns, obama promised in september of 2008. however, he advocated closing a loophole that allows for gun purchases without background checks at gun shows and for reinstating the assault weapons ban. obama kept his promises to gun owners but not to gun control advocates. the president signed bills allowing guns in national parks and on amtrak. he has not pushed for the restatement of the assault weapons ban nor closed the gun show loophole. has the president failed to lead? >> i'm not going to comment on that. he will have a bill to lead on because i'm going to introduce the bill in the senate and the same bill w
and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns,...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago. these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. this evening, michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do which is hug our children a little tighter and we'll tell them that we love them. and we'll remind each other how deeply we love one another. but there are families in connecticut who cannot do that tonight. and they need all of us right now. in our days to come, the community needs us to be at our best as americans and i will do everything in my power as president to help. because while nothing can fill the space of a lost child or loved one, all of us can extend a hand to those in need, to remind them that we are there for them. that we are praying for them. that the love they felt for those they lost endures not just in their memories, bu
whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago. these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. this evening, michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do which is hug our children a little tighter and...
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. >> i'm still trying to wrap my head around what happened in oregon earlier this week. you know, when i saw on twitter this morning that this had happened, i sunk in my chair, you know. you really can't do justice to what these kids and what these teachers have just experienced the violence, the intensity, the sadness. this is not something that should be normal in our country. this is not something that other countries experience like we do. today is the day for sympathy. today is the day to be with your loved ones to tell people who you're close to how much they mean to you, you know. we have to think about what we're going to do after today, what we're going to do between now and the next major shooting that happens. our decision makers think this is something they can't influence, this is something they think they can't do anything about. the majority of us don't want to see these things continue to happen and live in a country like this. we need to let them know that we want to live in a better country than this. we want -- that we're better than this. you know? it
. >> i'm still trying to wrap my head around what happened in oregon earlier this week. you know, when i saw on twitter this morning that this had happened, i sunk in my chair, you know. you really can't do justice to what these kids and what these teachers have just experienced the violence, the intensity, the sadness. this is not something that should be normal in our country. this is not something that other countries experience like we do. today is the day for sympathy. today is the...
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an elementary school in newtown, a shopping mall in oregon, a house of worship in wisconsin, a movie theater in colorado, countless street corners in places like chicago and philadelphia. >> nbc's kristen welker at the white house. the president included that statement in the weekly address about the shootings. but yesterday he had a very emotional reaction. >> it was really one of the most emotional responses that we've ever seen from this president, alex. he was reacting not only as the president, as the commander in chief, but also as a father who has two young daughters. one of his main goals yesterday was to send a message to connecticut that their tragedy is the nation's tragedy. here is a little bit of what he had to say yesterday. take a listen. >> i know there is not a parent in america who doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that i do. the majority of those who died today were children. beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. they had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. >> and, alex, the president
an elementary school in newtown, a shopping mall in oregon, a house of worship in wisconsin, a movie theater in colorado, countless street corners in places like chicago and philadelphia. >> nbc's kristen welker at the white house. the president included that statement in the weekly address about the shootings. but yesterday he had a very emotional reaction. >> it was really one of the most emotional responses that we've ever seen from this president, alex. he was reacting not only...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> "meaningful action," those words. meaningful action. legislatively, what might we be looking at? are we talking, you know, renewing the 2004 ban on assault weapons? are we talking about limiting some of these -- what are we talking about, possibly? >> i think for president obama, the floor is at least renewing the assault weapons ban. that's very important, because from '94 to 2004, we had at least a law in this country that stamped the production of these most dangerous weapons, weapons that really are only used for massed more. they don't have another purpose. and when that law expired, we lost that stamping. we're way behind, even in da catching up, to have a system that regulates those kind of weapons. and we know
whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> "meaningful action," those words. meaningful action. legislatively, what might we be looking at? are we...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora, or a street coroner chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children.ner chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. this evening michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do, which is hug our children a little tighter, and we'll tell them that we love them, and we'll remind each other how deeply we love one another, but there are families in connecticut who cannot do that tonight, and they need all of us right now. may god bless the memory of the victims. and in the words of scripture, heal the broken hearted and bind up their wounds. >> much like the president of the united states, americans are experiencing a wide range of emotions tonight. and it's difficult to process them. these are photos no one will be able to forge
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and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns, obama promised in september of 2008. however, he advocated closing a loophole that allows for gun purchases without background checks at gun shows and for reinstating the assault weapons ban. obama kept his promises to gun owners but not to gun control advocates. the president signed bills allowing guns in national parks and on amtrak. he has not pushed for the restatement of the assault weapons ban nor closed the gun show loophole. has the president failed to lead? >> i'm not going to comment on that. he will have a bill to lead on because i'm going to introduce the bill in the senate and the same bill w
and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns,...
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and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns, obama promised in september of 2008. however, he advocated closing a loophole that allows for gun purchases without background checks at gun shows and for reinstating the assault weapons ban. obama kept his promises to gun owners but not to gun control advocates. the president signed bills allowing guns in national parks and on amtrak. he has not pushed for the restatement of the assault weapons nor has he moved toward closing the gun show loophole. has the president failed to lead? >> i'm not going to comment on that. he will have a bill to lead on because i'm going to introduce the bill in the senate an
and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns,...
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>> it seems like we just did this last week and the reality is we did at the shopping mall in oregon and here we go one more time. in these school shootings, once again, we have learned that children cannot wait, to wait for the s.w.a.t. team to do a tactical -- the first two or three responding officers, local police, deputy sheriffs, they go ahead and make a tactical entry and their whole job is to penetrate into the building and go to the shoote
>> it seems like we just did this last week and the reality is we did at the shopping mall in oregon and here we go one more time. in these school shootings, once again, we have learned that children cannot wait, to wait for the s.w.a.t. team to do a tactical -- the first two or three responding officers, local police, deputy sheriffs, they go ahead and make a tactical entry and their whole job is to penetrate into the building and go to the shoote
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and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns, obama promised in september of 2008. however, he advocated closing a loophole that allows for gun purchases without background checks at gun shows and for reinstating the assault weapons ban. obama kept his promises to gun owners but not to gun control advocates. the president signed bills allowing guns in national parks and on amtrak. he has not pushed for the restatement of the assault weapons ban nor closed the gun show loophole. has the president failed to lead? >> i'm not going to comment on that. he will have a bill to lead on because i'm going to introduce the bill in the senate and the same bill w
and the number of victims going back to columbine in 1999 all the way to portland, oregon, at a mall. three people killed there. so the context is just so alarming. senator feinstien, we talk about guns. it often overshadows the debate about mental illness. but in the vein of gun control in this country and presidential leadership, you heard from mayor bloomberg. this is how "the washington post" described the president's leadership back in july. i'm not going to take away your guns,...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> meaningful action. well, today's tragedy in connecticut brings the issue of guns to the forefront of america's minds tonight. and president obama pledged to take that meaningful action at his white house statement earlier this afternoon. with me are two people with personal experience with gun violence, u.s. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, of course of new york, who lost her husband in a 1993 mass shooting on that commuter train. and colin goddard is a survivor of the virginia tech shootings in 2007. he now works for the brady campaign. by the way, we called the nra, the national rifle association today, hoping to get someone from that organization on tonight. they said they're not commenting until more information is
whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> meaningful action. well, today's tragedy in connecticut brings the issue of guns to the forefront of america's minds...
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happy valley, oregon, on tuesday, a mall shooting, and then, of course, newtown on friday. that all happened -- >> two policemen in kansas. >> in one week. in one week. >> we should have a conversation about mental health and how we help people who are clearly at a breaking point, and we can have a conversation about violence in the media, but the commonality of all the events you just described is guns and in many cases illegal guns, and so the conversation that i think americans really want to have right now is what we do to reduce the amount of illegal gun violence in this country. we've done it in new york. this is the safest big city in the country. there are other large cities that are making real inroads against gun violence, but at the local level mayors and governors can't do it without leadership at the federal level, and, again, the passion and the comforting words from the president, they're important, but they're not nearly as important as the kind of leadership that he and congressman larson, his colleagues in congress, need to demonstrate now to get something
happy valley, oregon, on tuesday, a mall shooting, and then, of course, newtown on friday. that all happened -- >> two policemen in kansas. >> in one week. in one week. >> we should have a conversation about mental health and how we help people who are clearly at a breaking point, and we can have a conversation about violence in the media, but the commonality of all the events you just described is guns and in many cases illegal guns, and so the conversation that i think...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in auro aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. >> we're going to bring lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for "the chicago sun-times," goldie taylor, an msnbc contributor and also managing editor of the goldie taylor project. ladies, thanks for joining me. >> sure. >> in her new article on msnbc.com, goldie talks about a very personal experience with the impact of gun violence. both her father and her brother killed by firearms. she writes, in part, that after their deaths, owning a gun made her feel secure, but now it's time to give it up. ge goldie, let me start with you. you're a gun owner. >> sure. >> what has all of this done for you and done to you? >> well, there were a couple of things. i came to this world in a gun household. my mother owned a gun, my father had guns. so they were just a part of our life. my stepfather was a police detective. so guns were a part of our life. and the
whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in auro aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. >> we're going to bring lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for "the chicago sun-times," goldie taylor, an msnbc contributor and also managing editor of the goldie taylor project. ladies, thanks for joining me. >> sure. >> in...
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mayfield and his wife, mona, were leading a quiet suburban life with their children outside of portland, oregon. but in may 2004, after weeks of what was clumsily intended to be secret government search and surveillance, federal authorities come knocking on mayfield's door. >> i said, if you have any questions to ask me, put them to me in writing -- and i could tell right away that wasn't going to make them go away. >> in march 2004, a terrorist attack on trains in madrid, spain, had killed 191 people. spanish police found a fingerprint near the scene on a bag of detonators. they sent a photocopy of that print to the fbi. the fbi decided that that fingerprint matched brandon mayfield. >> they started actually to physically, forcibly making their way into my office. and they proceeded to forcibly handcuff me. >> while you were being taken into custody at your office, were they also at your house? >> they had a search warrant at my house. my wife was home. they had insinuated that i was a terrorist. >> meanwhile, you had been taken into custody, did your family know where you were? >> no. >> with
mayfield and his wife, mona, were leading a quiet suburban life with their children outside of portland, oregon. but in may 2004, after weeks of what was clumsily intended to be secret government search and surveillance, federal authorities come knocking on mayfield's door. >> i said, if you have any questions to ask me, put them to me in writing -- and i could tell right away that wasn't going to make them go away. >> in march 2004, a terrorist attack on trains in madrid, spain,...
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been through this too many times whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children, and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> if i can bring in democratic strategist julian epstein. julian, we've learned those children who survived were told to hold hands and close their eyes as they walked out of the school. this is devastating enough for adults, but for children? >> it's devastating for the country, and if you consider the age of the victims involved here, martin, this is probably the worst school shooting that we've ever experienced in the country's history, and as bad as it is, we have to keep in mind that this kind of tragedy is occurring every single day in the united states. every single day 30 americans die from handgun related homicides. that's 200 a week. that's 11,000 a year. that's the equivalent of a
been through this too many times whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children, and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> if i can bring in democratic strategist julian epstein. julian, we've learned those...
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when the first responding officers went in and confronted him or whether, as we saw in the portland, oregon, mall shooting this past week, whether the shooter actually shot himself committing suicide. we know that at least two handguns were found. you know, that takes us back to april 2007 when the shooter at virginia tech, in that case, who killed 32 and wounded 15, also had two handguns. what it does suggest, though, is that this individual went in there with carrying two handguns and perhaps other ammunition. he went in there apparently to confront someone. we're told that confrontation took place in the office of the school and may have spilled out from there. we're still trying to understand the number of victims and the level of injury. >> clint, you know, when we talk about these shootings, first off, they are mentioning that it's happening with a frequency that is absolutely horrifying in temz of the fact that this is something that seems to be recurring, an actual nightmare that keeps happening. in terms of the ages of the students here, this -- up until now most of these shootings
when the first responding officers went in and confronted him or whether, as we saw in the portland, oregon, mall shooting this past week, whether the shooter actually shot himself committing suicide. we know that at least two handguns were found. you know, that takes us back to april 2007 when the shooter at virginia tech, in that case, who killed 32 and wounded 15, also had two handguns. what it does suggest, though, is that this individual went in there with carrying two handguns and perhaps...
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oregon senator jeff merckley called it a fantasy. arizona congressman raul g. rijalva said it is a beltway figure leaf that i will never support. pelosi's line in the sand was on raising the age on medicare eligibility. that's something she couldn't help do so that's what she took off the table, meaning social security politically in this day and age is easier to touch these days than medicare. oh, how things have changed when social security was the famous third rail of american politics. >>> at 11:45 a.m. this morning in the brady press briefing room named for jim brady, who was the white house press secretary who was shot and permanently disabled after a 1981 assassination attempt on ronald reagan. the president will announce a task force led by vice president biden to develop a policy response to the newtown, connecticut shooting. the president is not expected to make any policy decisions but lay out a path forward on a process to come up with some policy proposals. on sunday though he did promise in newtown that he would use whatever power this office hold
oregon senator jeff merckley called it a fantasy. arizona congressman raul g. rijalva said it is a beltway figure leaf that i will never support. pelosi's line in the sand was on raising the age on medicare eligibility. that's something she couldn't help do so that's what she took off the table, meaning social security politically in this day and age is easier to touch these days than medicare. oh, how things have changed when social security was the famous third rail of american politics....
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all the way to the west coast, it's been snowing on and off in areas of oregon. traveling early on i-5 and any hilly areas, there's some snow in areas that don't get hugely a lot of it. that is the snowstorm that's going to move across the country. this is the snow map. it looks like the highest totals will be found as we go throughout nebraska and iowa. that's wednesday night into thursday morning. i'm guessing thursday a lot of kids won't have school probably in iowa and wisconsin. this will be a significant snowstorm for you. the rest of the country today, enjoy just a beautiful tuesday there from dallas through the deep south and the southeast is looking very nice today, too. st. louis, no complaints whatsoever. partly cloudy skies. nice, clear start to your morning. enjoy. you're watching "morning joe" approved by starbucks. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hong kong. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight, i'm trading 9500 miles away in japan. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with the new global ac
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the violence we see spreading from shopping malls in oregon to movie theaters in colorado to college campuses in virginia to elementary schools in connecticut. it's being spawned by the toxic brew of a violent popular culture, a growing mental health crisis, and the proliferation of combat-styled weapons. though entrenched special interests are going to try to muddy the cause in the coming days, the cause of this sickening mass shooting like the others is no longer a mystery to common-sense americans, and blessedly, there are more common-sense americans than there are special interests, even if it doesn't always seem that way. i say good luck to the gun lobbyist. good luck to the hollywood lawyer who tries to blunt the righteous anger of millions of parents by hiding behind twisted readings of our bill of rights. our government rightly obsesses day and night on how to prevent the next 9/11 from being launched from a cave in afghanistan or a training base in yemen, but perhaps, just perhaps, now is the time they start obsessing on how to stop the next attack on a movie theater or in a
the violence we see spreading from shopping malls in oregon to movie theaters in colorado to college campuses in virginia to elementary schools in connecticut. it's being spawned by the toxic brew of a violent popular culture, a growing mental health crisis, and the proliferation of combat-styled weapons. though entrenched special interests are going to try to muddy the cause in the coming days, the cause of this sickening mass shooting like the others is no longer a mystery to common-sense...
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an elementary school in newtown, a shopping mall in oregon, a house of worship in wisconsin, a movie theater in colorado, countless street corners and places like chicago and philadelphia. >> nbc's kristen welker is at the white house now. kristen with a hello to you. the president included that statement in his weekly address about the shootings today. but yesterday he offered quite an emotional reaction. >> reporter: it really was, alex. it was one of the most emotional moments that we have ever seen from this president. he said that he was watching these horrific events unfold, not just as commander in chief but also as a father. so he said that he was mourning right along with the families in connecticut. the purpose of his message really to make the point that connecticut's tragedy is the nation's tragedy. here's a little bit more of what president obama had to say. and this is from yesterday. take a listen. >> i know there's not a parent in america who doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that i do. the majority of those who died today were children. beautiful little kids b
an elementary school in newtown, a shopping mall in oregon, a house of worship in wisconsin, a movie theater in colorado, countless street corners and places like chicago and philadelphia. >> nbc's kristen welker is at the white house now. kristen with a hello to you. the president included that statement in his weekly address about the shootings today. but yesterday he offered quite an emotional reaction. >> reporter: it really was, alex. it was one of the most emotional moments...
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whether it's an elementary school in newtown or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora, or a street corner in chicago. these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> the thing that caused me as most significant was the street corner in chicago line. because that was a way of saying it's not just these mass shootings that get a lot of attention. it's the daily gun deaths in this country. >> absolutely. absolutely. and i think what he's speaking to this culture of violence that's been created that normalizes the ways in which guns are used, but that we have this very specific attention on the mass shootings, and i mean, how can you not when there are babies who are 5 years old being killed. and then i think about lloyd, a little 4-year-old black boy who was killed when watching his game of basketball, as he did on his stoop, and some younger teenagers started shooting and he's now
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the guy in portland, oregon, earlier this week stole the gun. cho at virginia tech went out and bought them, even though he clearly had psychological problems and no stops had been placed against him. we have 310 million americans. 275 million guns. it's going to be a challenge keeping guns out of those hands who would use them in a wrong way, but we've got to start somewhere, and we've got to start sometime. >> doctor. >> i just want to agree very strongly with that. we have to do what's sane and rational for a country like ours, and we have to stop the flow of these high capacity magazine clips, and these kinds of automatic weapons. they don't belong in the hands of civilians period, and even though we have a backlog and we'll have to deal with the consequences of that, that genie is not going to be put back in the bottle. what we need to do now is act like grownups, take responsibility, confront the nra, whatever we have to do and start having sane, rational policies that have to do with the control of new weapons of this type, new ammunition
the guy in portland, oregon, earlier this week stole the gun. cho at virginia tech went out and bought them, even though he clearly had psychological problems and no stops had been placed against him. we have 310 million americans. 275 million guns. it's going to be a challenge keeping guns out of those hands who would use them in a wrong way, but we've got to start somewhere, and we've got to start sometime. >> doctor. >> i just want to agree very strongly with that. we have to do...
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that will stop the oregon shootings and maybe the guy -- the teenager that does the, you know, popcorn, sells the popcorn in movie theaters. if we had just armed the 18-year-old in aurora. >> how about football games, those replacement referees, they wouldn't have gotten by with that stuff. >> unbelievable. >>> coming up, senator chuck schumer. he's got a very compelling op-ed in "the washington post." and it's more inclusive on these -- the gun issue. also, former national security adviser, dr. brzezinski is with us, former white house press second, dee dee myers, and "the washington post's" bob woodward. and after the break, jim vandehei looks at the "politico playbook." here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> thanks, joe. maybe breaking news coming out of southern portions of alabama. this winter storm has a severe element to it. over the last half hour, we're getting reports that a tornado has struck the western side of mobile, alabama. and moved to the north through chickasaw. this tornado could possibly still be on the ground. the tornado sirens have been going off. a
that will stop the oregon shootings and maybe the guy -- the teenager that does the, you know, popcorn, sells the popcorn in movie theaters. if we had just armed the 18-year-old in aurora. >> how about football games, those replacement referees, they wouldn't have gotten by with that stuff. >> unbelievable. >>> coming up, senator chuck schumer. he's got a very compelling op-ed in "the washington post." and it's more inclusive on these -- the gun issue. also,...
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whether it's looking at the proliferation of these weapons, whether it's looking at what happened in oregon, what happened in colorado, what happened in virginia, what happened in connecticut, what continues happening, congressman. so we can't at least talk about guns without you questioning my integrity and saying that i'm using the death of 20 children to try to make life for my children a little bit safer? we can't even talk about it without you coming on this show -- >> joe -- >> -- and insulting me personally? >> i didn't say it was you politicizing it. you're not even a politician anymore, and i understand that. you look around this town, you look within 24 hours, folks running on and saying hey, we need to change the laws. when they don't even know the situation. >> sir -- >> all i'm saying is let's spend time looking at that but not to use the tragedy. as a very famous political strategist from chicago said, don't let any crisis go unused. i do not want to politicize this. >> let me get this straight. so you can come on the show and say what i've said, by the way, that we've got to
whether it's looking at the proliferation of these weapons, whether it's looking at what happened in oregon, what happened in colorado, what happened in virginia, what happened in connecticut, what continues happening, congressman. so we can't at least talk about guns without you questioning my integrity and saying that i'm using the death of 20 children to try to make life for my children a little bit safer? we can't even talk about it without you coming on this show -- >> joe --...
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so the shooting in the mall in oregon. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking maybe if we arm like the people that do the smoothies and whatever. >> or the sun glaglass hut thea or movie theater, the kid that give you popcorn. >> spencer's gifts. okay that doesn't make a lot of sense. >> that's an answer. come on. by the way, bock b mcdonald, a i like and respect, bob mcdonald -- i like him and agree with him 90% of the time. on this gun issue, i saw jim's report a couple of years back. these gun shows in virginia where he gets a kid that was injured during the virginia tech shooting with an old i.d., and they just start handing him guns. >> he came home with i think about six assault rifles in the trunk of his car. yeah. that was a good day in our household. brought them back to new york. >> places like philadelphia. >> you look at murders across the tri-state area, so many come from virginia in that gun show loophole. bob mcdonald said we need more guns and give teachers guns. you know what? before you arm more people, look at the gun shows in virginia that, again, allow trafficking of these ill
so the shooting in the mall in oregon. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking maybe if we arm like the people that do the smoothies and whatever. >> or the sun glaglass hut thea or movie theater, the kid that give you popcorn. >> spencer's gifts. okay that doesn't make a lot of sense. >> that's an answer. come on. by the way, bock b mcdonald, a i like and respect, bob mcdonald -- i like him and agree with him 90% of the time. on this gun issue, i saw jim's report a couple of...
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try the state that produces the most christmas trees which is oregon. with almost 5 million. north carolina and michigan are the runners up. and those are your number once. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's...